[Chat] trash picking

echalmers at mindspring.com echalmers at mindspring.com
Thu Jun 2 09:04:09 EDT 2005


Indeed I didn't send the message Emil said did not come from me, nor would I send such a thing. Nor did I demand that Judy do anything. I simply said that I hoped she would try to find the owner--since she was already going through the trash, looking for an envelope or other identifying item would have been easy. It also would have been easy to knock on nearby doors and ask if anyone recognized the pencil box without saying what was in it. I'm sure whoever lost the money would have appreciated her efforts. As Dale noted, Judy might want to think how she would feel had she inadvertently tossed something like that.

Once again, as security experts are always saying, be very careful what you put in the trash. Indentity theft is a serious and growing concern, and trash turns out to be much more public than we think.

-----Original Message-----
From: jdy <jberlin at bcpl.net>
Sent: Jun 2, 2005 2:36 AM
To: The Charles Village Chat List <Chat at charlesvillage.info>
Subject: Re: [Chat] trash picking

maybe i should have left it for the street people to find. they need it more
than i.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dale Ghent" <daleg at elemental.org>
To: "The Charles Village Chat List" <Chat at charlesvillage.info>
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 2:15 AM
Subject: Re: [Chat] trash picking


>
> I'm not so sure you would be saying this if you had accidentally
> thrown $120 out with the trash and someone took it before you
> realized what had happened and could retrieve it.
>
> Way to take the moral high-ground there.
>
> /dale
>
> On Jun 2, 2005, at 2:22 AM, jdy wrote:
>
> > sorry i see it differently.  cars and trash are like refried beans
> > and sour grapes. no comparison.
> > judy
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Dale Ghent
> > To: The Charles Village Chat List
> > Cc: echalmers at mindspring.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 3:24 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Chat] trash picking
> >
> >
> > Generally, garbage or refuse that someone leaves out for pickup is
> > still their property. Rifling through someone else's garbage,
> > before it's picked up by the trash hauler, is considered trespass.
> >
> > Taking someone's "garbage" if you're not the authorized trash
> > hauler is, basically, theft. Ownership of trash ends when the
> > hauler receives it.
> >
> > So, I would think that Judy is in the wrong twice... once for going
> > through trash, and second for taking something from it.
> >
> > Think of it as screwing with someone's car parked on the street.
> > Would you do that?
> >
> > /dale
> >
> > On Jun 1, 2005, at 2:34 PM, echalmers at mindspring.com wrote:
> >
> >> Judy--
> >>
> >> I would hope that you would try to find out whose garbage you were
> >> rifling and return the money to that person.
> >>
> >> I personally have no problem with people picking up visible items
> >> left outside as trash--if no one wants that banged-up table and I
> >> can use it in my yard, so be it. But I have a BIG problem with
> >> people who "pick" through small trash, since what you call trash
> >> picking is one way people steal identities. Not everyone is
> >> careful enough about what goes into the trash, and people intent
> >> on stealing identies will rifle trash looking for credit card
> >> bills, bank     statements, and other identifying numbers.
> >>
> >> Thus, if I saw you or anyone else picking through my trash, I
> >> would be very angry, would chase you off, and might in some
> >> circumstances call the cops. I have certainly called neighbors
> >> when I have seen people going through their trash.
> >>
> >> Again, I hope you will try to return the money.
> >>
> >> Emily
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: jdy
> >> Sent: Jun 1, 2005 1:22 PM
> >> To: Charles Village Discussion List
> >> Cc: The Charles Village Chat List
> >> Subject: [Chat] trash picking
> >>
> >> to all you folks who look down on us alley shoppers,
> >> i got a real bargain yesterday. $125.00 stuffed in a pencil box.
> >> in the same aisle was a small Tupperware container overflowing
> >> with pennies and some foreign coins.
> >> sorry-- sale is over.
> >>
> >> :~) judy
> >>
> >>
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