[Chat] trash cans

Fri Apr 1 14:38:52 EDT 2011

Thank you Matthew!

Although $600.00 is expensive--if CV bought $50.00 cans, they would be stiolen or blown away every week -- realizing that they are on the streets 24 / 7. At $50.00 each per week, it would be $2600 for one location per year -- or if one disappeared per month, it would be $600.00 per year. You do the math -- and thank you for buying USA. I don't know about everyone else, but I do not want to see beat up trash cans blowing around Charles Village. I am not an eliteist, but I do appreciate a vibrant-clean neighborhood.

Do you remember the free cans that the City gave away 3 years ago--as we can see, they have all disappeared.

As I see the examples on the web page, there are opportunities for signage on the cans to either promote the neighborhood or to sell advertising to local companies.

Thank You:
Richard Burnham
Graphic Imaging
(a Local USA Printer)

-----Original Message-----
From: weinsteinm at aol.com
To: chat at charlesvillage.info; discussion at charlesvillage.info
Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2011 1:27 pm
Subject: Re: [Chat] trash cans

Judy, if you're going to lecture everyone that they should buy American, you can't then start complaining that it's too expensive to do so unless you can demonstrate that it's possible to find equally high quality trash cans for less.  I'm sure it's possible to find ones made in Asia for a fraction of the price (www.nytimes.com/2007/11/26/nyregion/26manhole.html tells the story of how New York City began buying manhole covers made in India because they were so much cheaper), but you would be against that, right?  I'm sure it's also possible to find lower quality ones that won't last as long, but then you're pushing the CVCBD to be penny-wise and pound-foolish because they'd probably end up paying more in the long run.  Can you show that similar institutions are able to purchase American-made, high-quality trash cans for less?  If not, then I don't understand why you're complaining.  

-Matthew

-----Original Message-----
From: jberlin <jdydee at verizon.net>
To: David Hill <davidhill at charlesvillage.org>; Tweefie Millspaugh <TMillspaugh at semmes.com>; The Charles Village Chat List <chat at charlesvillage.info>; Charles Village Discussion List <discussion at charlesvillage.info>; Mary Pat. Clarke <MaryPat.Clarke at baltimorecity.gov>
Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2011 12:29 pm
Subject: Re: [Chat] trash cans

Mr Hill, 

I understand that no tax money is being used. The CVCBD is not a municipality. Since many municipalities are incompetent,I hope the CVCBD is not using them as an example of what to do. 
This is extravagance out of control. 
I am sure Witt Industries is reputable. They have been in business a long time,probably due to frivolous purchases. 
I cannot conceive of any rationale that would justify this waste of money. 

Sincerely, 
Judy Berlin 

David Hill wrote: 
> Judy: 
> 
> No tax money is being used to purchase the cans; it is all being raised from 
> foundations, businesses, and residents. To date, we have over $24,000. The 
> most recent donation is from PNC Bank. 
> 
> The trash cans we are purchasing are made by Witt Industries a reputable 
> American company in Ohio that has been in business for over 100 years. The 
> particular cans we are purchasing are the Stadium Series described here: 
> http://www.witt.com/Stadium-Series/2009/03/message-center.php As quality 
> trash cans go, these are actually on the less expensive side at $600. Many 
> municipalities spend far more as you can see from browsing this website and 
> others. The trashcans you see in parks for example typically cost well over 
> a $1000 each. 
> 
> I have attached the two page proposal I gave to the Board several months ago 
> when I first put forward this idea and also a picture that compares the old 
> and new cans; the new can was on loan from Stevenson University. I think my 
> proposal pretty much explains the rationale. 
> 
> The first shipment of 15 cans will arrive in mid April hopefully just in 
> time for the Mayor's Spring Cleanup. I am meeting with the Mayor's staff 
> today to arrange for her to participate in a "ribbon cutting" ceremony at 
> about 9:30 Saturday April 16th in the park at Calvert Street and 24th. I 
> will keep everyone informed as to whether this event is "ON" or "OFF". I 
> hope you will join us if it is. 
> 
> Feel free to circulate. 
> 
> David T. Hill 
> Executive Director, CVCBD 
> 2434 Saint Paul Street, Baltimore, MD 21218 
> 410.235.4411 / 410.235.5544 (fax) 
> 
> ANNOUNCEMENTS: 
> - Help us raise $60,000 to purchase 100 new trash cans by July 1st! Send 
> your tax deductable contribution to The Charles Village 
> Foundation 2434 St Paul St. Baltimore MD 21218 with "TRASH CANS" in the 
> memo line. (We have already raised over $23,000!) 
> - The CVCBD Spring Meeting on the Financial Plan for FY 2012 is scheduled 
> for March 29th at Lovely Lane Church from 6:30 - 8:00 
> - The Mayor's Spring Cleanup is scheduled for April 16th 2011 from 9am to 
> 1pm. (The date was changed from the 23rd to the 16th) 
> SANITATION TIPS: 
> - Put tight fitting lids on your trash cans! 
> - Don't put household trash in corner baskets! Put it out in your own trash 
> can on your respective trash and recycling pickup days. 
> SAFETY TIPS: 
> - Do not leave valuables in view in your parked vehicle. Take them with you 
> or lock them in your trunk. 
> - Light up the night! Leave your porch and back yard lights on. 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: jberlin [mailto:jdydee at verizon.net] 
> Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 12:02 PM 
> To: davidhill at charlesvillage.org; The Charles Village Chat List; Charles 
> Village Discussion List; Mary Pat. Clarke 
> Subject: trash cans 
> 
> Dear Mr Hill, 
> 
> As a homeowner and taxpayer, I find it insulting to spend that kind of 
> money for trash cans. Rats were a problem before the mesh cans were put 
> out. Why were they used. How much money was wasted on that ? I have to 
> agree with Tweefie Millspaugh, sounds to much like a $700/toilet or the 
> $900/hammer. 
> 
> Judy Berlin 

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