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<p class=MsoNormal><st2:GivenName w:st="on"><font size=3 color=blue
 face=Georgia><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Georgia;color:blue'>Judy</span></font></st2:GivenName><font
size=3 color=blue face=Georgia><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Georgia;
color:blue'>,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Georgia><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Georgia;color:blue'>Why are you getting a Mac???!!! 
Isn’t most of the world on PCs?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Georgia><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Georgia;color:blue'>I heard that AT&T dsl is
excellent.  <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Georgia><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Georgia;color:blue'>I read that if you use verizon, you must
also use verizon for your phone service.  <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Georgia><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Georgia;color:blue'>There’s a site online that
compares dsl with cable.  I’ll look for the link.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><font
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color:windowtext;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font color=black
face=Tahoma><span style='font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext'> Discussion-bounces@charlesvillage.info
[mailto:Discussion-bounces@charlesvillage.info] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Kiko<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sunday, <st1:date Year="2006"
Day="05" Month="3" ls="trans" w:st="on">March 05, 2006</st1:date> <st1:time
Minute="01" Hour="13" w:st="on">1:01 PM</st1:time><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> '<st1:PersonName w:st="on"><st2:GivenName
 w:st="on">Charles</st2:GivenName> <st2:middlename w:st="on">Village</st2:middlename>
 <st2:middlename w:st="on">Discussion</st2:middlename> <st2:Sn w:st="on">List</st2:Sn></st1:PersonName>';
'jdy'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Discussion] dsl</span></font><font
size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
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style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><st2:GivenName
w:st="on"><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
 font-family:Arial;color:black'>Judy</span></font></st2:GivenName><font
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'>:  
Verizon DSL apparently now has a $19.99/mo. package. It's not what I use, but
it's what my dad uses, and people on a tight budget say it's pretty cool.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Get an eMac. It's not available for general sale through the Apple
Store anymore -- you have to register as a teacher at an accredited school to
get in to that part of Apple's website. But there are plenty of other retailers
other than Apple from which to get an eMac.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>I got my Mom her eMac this past Christmas by ordering it through
MacConnection. But MacConnection appears to have stopped selling them, or to
have run out of them. According to Shopping.com, the following is one set
of stores where the eMac is still available.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'> <a
href="http://www3.shopping.com/xPO-Apple_APPLE_EMAC_G4_1_42_SD">http://www3.shopping.com/xPO-Apple_APPLE_EMAC_G4_1_42_SD</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>I recommend the eMac because it's structurally similar to the
original iMac, but more powerful, with a much faster processer, more RAM, etc.,
with a larger screen and sharper picture quality.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Don't worry about the computer being "out of date" with
regards to customer support. Apple SUPPOSEDLY provides support for any
reasonably up to date Mac model, particularly anything made within the past
three to five years. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>HOWEVER, and this is a big but, you should not actually expect to
GET any technical support even though you are legally entitled to it. Getting a
Mac means basically resigning yourself to the knowhow of neighborhood Mac
enthusiasts, or internet-based Mac user groups, whenever you have a question.
This is because Apple has notoriously "fenced in" its customer
support so that no one can easily get to it.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>There's a way to get around that too, though-- according to a
public radio proclamation I heard some weeks back, just keep pressing zero from
the first instant you hear the machine-operator's voice, and no matter how many
times s/he says "error" or "incorrect," just keep pressing
it until the system transfers you to a live representative. Of course, the rep
will probably be someone in India reading from a script, but that's been
the case with nearly all customer support at all companies for years and years
now (slave labor galore), so that part doesn't really have to do with your
original question.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>The eMac ships with MacOS X 10.4, which means there will be
numerous update patches (to 10.4.5 and beyond) that you will want to apply to
the machine immediately after you unpack it and connect it to the
Internet. You don't have to do the updating manually-- just go to the
Apple menu and choose Software Update, accept all the prompts that follow, and
the Mac will download and install all these things automatically. Another plus
with the eMac, and modern Macs generally, is that apparently, you don't really
have to do anything to connect the computer to an Internet account. As long as
the signal is coming through OK, and you have an account with a username and
password already set up, just plug the cable in and it should do everything
set-up-wise on the spot. (PCs don't really do that, at least not as well.)
However, even if you don't yet have a DSL account etc., I'm assuming that it's
almost as easy to set things up from scratch, too.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Good luck!!!!!!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Nico<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><font size=2 color=black
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black;
font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font color=black face=Tahoma><span
style='font-family:Tahoma;color:black'> Discussion-bounces@charlesvillage.info
[mailto:Discussion-bounces@charlesvillage.info] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>jdy<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sunday, <st1:date Year="2006"
Day="05" Month="3" ls="trans" w:st="on">March 05, 2006</st1:date> <st1:time
Minute="16" Hour="12" w:st="on">12:16 PM</st1:time><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on"><st2:GivenName
 w:st="on">The</st2:GivenName> <st2:middlename w:st="on">Charles</st2:middlename>
 <st2:middlename w:st="on">Village</st2:middlename> <st2:middlename w:st="on">Chat</st2:middlename>
 <st2:Sn w:st="on">List</st2:Sn></st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on"><st1:place
 w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Charles</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceName
  w:st="on">Village</st1:PlaceName></st1:place> Discussion List</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [Discussion] dsl</span></font><font
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>can anyone recommend a reasonable  'dsl' service. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>i'm going to be getting a'mac' computer. any hints or educational
info anyone can give me will be appreciated. i don't recall hearing anything
about mac's getting virus's.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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w:st="on"><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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